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  • That said, I didn’t check the compatibility of your selected SR transceiver against your NICs and switch, so I’ll presume you’ve done your homework for that.

    This is the part that’s making me the most nervous. Even when I can find a compatibility list, they only refer to obscure first-party transceivers that I can’t find (or cost an absurd amount). But from what I have gathered, SFP+ is perfectly standardized, and it’s only the lockout code preventing you from using any transceiver on the market.

    I couldn’t even tell if there’s a difference (beyond basic spec compatibility, like 1G vs 10g, SR MMF vs LR, etc) between the expensive ones over the cheap generics. There must be some differences, because I see multiple models that look otherwise identical. Unless they’re just aesthetics/date indicators, which is always a possibility.



  • It’s my understanding that the vendor branding on FS transceivers is just a string to match what the vendor’s lockout code is looking for. Since Mikrotik doesn’t do that, I went with Ubiquiti in case I decide to move to that in the future.

    Fortunately, the fiber will mostly be running through an unfinished basement. I previously tried to run smurf tube behind finished wall, and it was much harder than it sounded. It’s hard to drill a hole that big, things didn’t line up, and parts of it involved extremely tight quarters. I would contract it out before I’d try it again.


  • Thanks for the quick reply. The available x4 slots are all physically x16, but electrically x4.

    While my use case today is pretty narrow, I’d rather not mess with the custom network settings to make it all cooperate on an otherwise completely flat network. The file server is running Ubuntu, and the desktop is currently running VMware ESXi. In the future, I expect to replace it with something else. I did verify that it lists the Intel network chipset on the HCL.





  • RAID is redundancy, not backup. The main purpose is to keep your system available while you deal with certain, specific types of failures. Also, for all intents and purposes, RAID2 isn’t a thing. I suspect you were reading about RAIDZ, RAID using ZFS. While it has proponents and advantages, it won’t secure your data any more than the common RAID5/6.

    Backup is to make sure you don’t lose data, regardless of what happened. This includes hardware failures, user error, bad/malicious software, and more.

    If your data is important to you, setup a backup. If you need 100% uptime, setup a backup, then setup RAID.


  • Thank you for the extra context. It’s relieving to know you don’t just have a bunch of USB “backup” drives connected.

    To break this down to its simplest elements, you basically have a bunch of small DASes connected to a USB host controller. The rest could be achieved using another interface, such as SATA, SAS, or others. USB has certain compromises that you really don’t want happening to a member of a RAID, which is why you’re getting warnings from people about data loss. SATA/SAS don’t have this issue.

    You should not have to replace the cable ever, especially if it does not move. Combined with the counterfeit card, it sounds like you had a bad parts supplier. But yes, parts can sometimes fail, and replacements on SAS are inconvenient. You also (probably) have to find a way to cool the card, which might be an ugly solution.

    I eventually went with a proper server DAS (EMC ktn-stl3, IIRC), connected via external SAS cable. It works like a charm, although it is extremely loud and sucks down 250w @ idle. I don’t blame anyone for refusing this as a solution.

    I wrote, rewrote, and eventually deleted large sections of this response as I thought through it. It really seems like your main reason for going USB is that specific enclosure. There should really be an equivalent with SAS/SATA connectors, but I can’t find one. DAS enclosures pretty much suck, and cooling is a big part of it.

    So, when it all comes down to it, you would need a DAS with good, quiet airflow, and SATA connectors. Presumably this enclosure would also need to be self-powered. It would need either 4 bays to match what you have, or 16 to cover everything you would need. This is a simple idea, and all of the pieces already exist in other products.

    But I’ve never seen it all combined. It seems the data hoarder community jumps from internal bays (I’ve seen up to 15 in a reasonable consumer config) straight to rackmount server gear.

    Your setup isn’t terrible, but it isn’t what it could/should be. All things being equal, you really should switch the drives over to SATA/SAS. But that depends on finding a good DAS first. If you ever find one, I’d be thrilled to switch to it as well.



  • This is actually a regional bit of language, specifically the region of the US. The term ‘state’ originally meant (and in some places, still means) an independent and sovereign entity/government. Under the terms of colonial America, each state was truly independent, so the term makes complete sense. Even the original attempt at uniting the colonies (under the Articles of Confederation) maintained that independence.

    But that failed and was promptly replaced by the US Constitution, which made the states much more like provinces. They became a piece of the whole, with significant influence from the larger entity. But we kept the term “state” when referring to them.