NormalC [he/him, comrade/them]

Very suave, I’m eager to see the dotfiles.

I like the transparency you were able to get with the top bar.

Cool story bro, stay mad. Even in your little mind of hexbears vs. The world, the hexbears won.

The OP is a hexbear who previously brought this up in the subreddit. Now it’s brought up here and now you’re mad there’s pushback. You can’t engage with us on the and now you’re resorting to meaningless personal jabs.

Stay mad poo poo pee pee.

wdym, you think people can’t change? Most everyone here has used rice before because it was the dominant term in this comm. Now that this post is here, there’s no excuse for it. This is not the clever own you think it is.

What a loser, get an actual argument instead of digging up my old comments that aren’t relevant to the current discussion, or just go back to reddit, they’d love you.

Lemmy user when they complain about people commenting on their social media site

have fun being angry at things you really cant control.

mask-off moment lmao.

“Imma show those western imperialists that I’m not a crybaby and continue to use their racist slang they invented/popularized for people like me in this tiny niche community.”

Really beat the racists here by co-opting their dogwhistle. It doesn’t matter though, the mods of this comm made their decision and have stopped using the word “rice” with their new comm-wide rule. If you have a problem with it you should take it up to them instead, if not, you can always quietly leave and go back to Reddit.

Asian here and rice eater here.

Ah yes, you need all your ethos cred for this one. No pick-me behavior for the crackers here. Not like there are billions of others with the same description as you (including a bangladeshi immigrant like me). I didn’t bring my own race into this until the “Im asian and this is okay” posts happened.

It’s better to regain is neutral meaning instead of letting the racist weaponize neutral word.

Racists love “neutral words.” It’s called dog whistling. Racists get their plausible deniability while they get to signal and exchange with other racists on public forums like this one. It doesn’t matter if you didn’t intend for this to happen, it’s still facilitated here. There’s always the possibility of new words, or are you too personally attached to “rice” for that to happen?

Also, this mindset is also Western centric, go to Asia and people in Linux and car community simply use the word without any negative connotation.

We are in a international, primarily english speaking lemmy instance by the developers of the project. Stop moving the goalposts here. We are not in your rhetorical places in “Asia” where there’s no negative connotation. Of course it will seem “western centric.”

For your last edit, fuck right off. People can see through your crocodile tears and self tokenization. This type of shit only works with white people who will accept your opinions more than others because it means they get to keep their status quo. Nice bringing up imperialism, you’d be great as a lapdog.

I’m sorry, I didn’t know an (generic) Asian heritage absolves you of all guilt and self crit. I’m south asian desi so I should know better right?

Also what is your mental gymnastics. “Imma show those western imperialists that I’m not a crybaby and continue to use their racist slang they invented/popularized for people like me in this tiny niche community.”

Pick-me attitudes don’t make you any more respectable, you just disengaged from this topic due to your own personal feelings. You’ve become the token Asian that the same western imperialists use to silence this discussion.

The real issue I see is that it increases the risk of dispute, even when there was no intent to start an argument… I believe this is part of why media is creating such chaos in our society

Ah, respectability politics. Dispute is so horrible that it must be avoided at all costs. It’s creating all this chaos!

You know your exact rhetoric is used by racists to create plausible deniability for themselves. The reason racists use words with double meanings is because people like you will always come and talk down to others who call it out. Let me guess: which part of the “media” is creating chaos in society?

it’s not meaningful when you use the word racism to describe something regardless of intent. What it really means is that you have been offended

The pejorative comes from a history rooted in racism. Racism does not require intent because it’s a system of bigotry with the intent to control others and common speech. This is where “dogwhistles” come from, words that on the surface seem okay but are really just signals to other racists. You can’t just always assume that people “made a mistake” in every situation.

tl;dr: the meaning has changed and no one cares.

Nobody is asking to change “literature” all were asking is that we develop new and better terminology for this niche that doesn’t also come with racist baggage.

The word removed meant a stick of wood but now it means something else and few would use it to refer to someone else

Ooo can you tell the class what that word means now? And what it’s used for? Your example falls flat because this situation and the historical pattern you’re referring to aren’t as comparable as you think they are.

PSA: racists love words with multiple meanings because it gives them plausible deniability. This is happening right now in this thread. Changing the word “rice” would deal a huge blow to racists as it would show that the unixporn comm will not be beholden to the status quo.

No, racists don’t “win” if we retire the word. In fact, this thread actually revealed a lot of racist attitudes/users. This actually helps weed out racists rather than embolden them.

There’s no winners or losers, just a conflict with the group identity where a clear decision has to be made.

Why not reclaim a word? Customizing a desktop is a labor of love. It takes a decent amount of time, and is deeply personal, representing one’s own taste.

Or why not find our own words? Words aren’t “locked” in on a single definition, but rather carry their whole host of definitions and history with them. You have to judge diction on all its fronts. Reclaiming a word means being part of the group that the term has actively disparaged (ex: reclaiming words like “queer”) . Using “rice” is not an act of reclaiming in this context and we shouldn’t view it that way.

You also didn’t say anything of note besides pulling your justification out of your ass. I have nothing to really discuss because you didn’t give anything worth talking about.

My justification is most people don’t care. You would be hard pressed to find an Asian person offended by this.

Source: trust me bro.

It will always take courage to break away from the incumbent vocabulary and experiment with something new. If this comm couldn’t survive/thrive without the use of this term, then the comm is as weak as the term itself.

Cook/Dish was my example, using other food related terms are also acceptable since the main conflict is that “rice” has a double meaning as you’ve shown. Plus, wouldn’t it be cooler if everyone had their own personal food related title to their submissions? Or if the literal comm description didn’t reference the term “rice” thereby setting it as the de-facto vocabulary?

I’d hope the moderators here will take a clear and firm stance on the matter instead of making a poll. Polls in this context would only shift blame away from the mods of this comm and onto the community at large. The comm description references the term, so it goes all the way to the top.

When repos changed to main from master, I got problems.

No you just harbor already racist attitudes. There are a non-trivial amount of people who dislike arbitrary, antiquated terminology used in computer science like “master/slave” “male/female” and of course “master branch.” Simply getting out your bullhorn and asking “who’s actually offended by this?” is demeaning to the issue at hand which goes much farther than just a historical analysis of racism.

You don’t have to prove/have intent in order to perpetuate a racist act. The “racist context” is the use of the term (which originates in the car industry as a pejorative) itself, you’re missing the point.

Do you all believe that the majority of people saying “my rice” have racist intents?

That only strengthens why “rice” should be challenged, people are unknowingly using the word just because it’s the established lexicon of the group and tied so closely with that group’s identity.