Yes. That’s the entire point here. If System76 makes this bad product, maybe their other products are bad. Maybe I should buy from a competitor. Oh, everyone says Framework laptops are great for Linux, even Framework. I guess I’ll buy from Framework instead of System76 thanks to LTT.
Don’t you see the conflict of interest there?
It does not matter that they don’t charge, because you don’t have to sell something for it to be a product. You only have to offer it to a market. You can sell spranglers, and provide sprangler dinchels for free, and sprangler dinchels are still considered your products.
Since you won’t believe me, here’s the dictionary definition of the word product. I’ve emphasized the important part.
2 a (1) : something produced
especially : COMMODITY sense 1
(2) : something (such as a service) that is marketed or sold as a commodity
- https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/product
And if you don’t trust that dictionary, here’s another:
1 [[countable, uncountable] a thing that is grown, produced or created, usually for sale
- https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/product
Or if you’d rather trust an encyclopedia, here’s Wikipedia’s entry (emphasis not mine):
In marketing and economics, a product is any object, service, or system offered to a market to satisfy a customer’s need or want. Products may be tangible, such as physical goods that can be touched and owned, or intangible, such as services, digital offerings, or rights that provide value without physical form. Products are created through processes of design, production, and distribution, and they play a central role in commercial exchange, consumer behavior, and organizational strategy.
I wouldn’t recommend HoloISO to a newbie. (Or anyone really. It’s meant for the Steam Deck.) He hasn’t tried Fedora, Bazzite, Kubuntu, or Mint though. I’d be interested to see how he breaks those. xD
I swear this guy could create problems with a light switch. I’ve been using Bazzite for three years and have never had any problems except for when an SSD died. Kubuntu too. That OS is rock solid.
So don’t go in online Linux communities. You can just read the docs and get by without ever interacting with anyone online. Also, the Linux community is like tens or maybe hundreds of millions of people. There’s no way to ban toxicity across hundreds of millions of interactions without a centralized moderation force.
That’s the part I don’t get. Where is he openly trying to make Linux look bad?
“I’m about to get hit with the Linux curse!”
“Oh, the Linux curse got me!”
“Oh, I’m a special Linux snowflake right now, and everybody’s counting on me, but I can’t do anything because of Linux!”
You should watch that part of the video again, closely. Yes, he attributed his issues to Valve and Linux, and there was never any correction. He probably doesn’t even know what a compositor is.
I definitely agree on the average user being more suited to a Linux preinstall. If they want something that just works, they should ask someone who knows. That’s what my parents did, which is why they’re happily running Fedora and have been for years. Fedora just works. I would never recommend PopOS to them.
Honestly the only reason why PopOS is ever recommended is because rather than the “Install Nvidia drivers” checkbox being during or after install, it’s when you download the ISO. That’s a silly reason to choose an OS. I told my dad to go to the Software app and search for the Nvidia drivers after the install, and his gaming PC works great with an Nvidia card.
The single biggest reason people don’t think Linux is easy is because they learned to use Windows when they were young and don’t remember that process. Since they don’t remember all of the hassle of learning Windows, the hassle of learning Linux seems unreasonable to them. Like seriously, no one is born with the knowledge of what the fuck C:\ means.
In reality, people are fine making decisions about basically everything they do. If they weren’t, we would all be driving the standard car, eating the standard food, and watching the standard show. Oh and we’d all be using Mac, which is the standard OS. Mac is the only mainstream OS which perfectly implements the POSIX standard, so by the most literal definition, Mac is the standard.
After watching him type “yes, do as I say” into a window telling him he’s about to destroy his system, and then watching his surprise as his system is destroyed, there’s no possible way you can convince me that this guy isn’t a bumbling fool.
By that logic, SteamOS is not a selling point of the Steam Deck, and SteamOS is not a Valve product.
And yes, they do sell it on their laptops:
Yes. On their laptops. Also, you don’t need to sell something for it to be a product.
Haha, I managed to bork my wife’s Windows 11 install so hard the other day just by resizing the partition that not only would it not boot or recover itself, but it also lost a bunch of her files for some reason. Not all, but her entire AppData folder. Had to reformat.
Anyway, an average user would just try a different distro. He should try a different distro. PopOS kinda sucks.
Do you honestly think this video was not a review of Linux? Just because they call it a challenge doesn’t mean it’s not a review. But fine, we’ll call them testers. IMHO, that is the worst kind of tester.
Multiple times while he’s talking about his experience, he’s attributing bugs in Cosmic to everything except Cosmic. Cosmic’s compositor, especially, has a bunch of bugs, and he’s hitting them, while blaming them on Valve and Linux. He doesn’t understand where the bugs are coming from, which, sure, is a bit of an excuse, but, he’s still spreading misinformation. And the best you can say is, well, he’s only spreading misinformation because he’s ignorant. But how does he not realize that it’s his distro when the other guys never see those bugs??
The fact that you didn’t realize that what he was saying was untrue kind of proves my point. He’s spreading misinformation.
That’s not the point. The point OP was making is that he shat on a competitor’s product without disclosing it.
The average user is just average. He emulated the worst, most inept, least knowledgeable, and most resistant to learning user he could. That’s not average. It’s prevalent, but it’s not average. He’s emulating the worst stereotypes of bad users and calling it what an average person would do, then implying that the experience he had would be the experience you, the average user, would have. It’s disingenuous and irresponsible.
He didn’t emulate an average user. He emulated an absolute moron. (But I suspect that’s because he is one. Every time he makes one of these videos, he convinces me further.)
Ok, so don’t review “Linux”, review PopOS. Then review Bazzite. Then review Cachy. Etc. Why teach (through implication) your normie users that Linux is all one thing?
But the duplicate Steam windows one is cause by Cosmic. And I believe there were some other issues he called out that were issues in the game generally, not the game on Linux. That might have been one of the other guys though.