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  • I’m not calling you names, I’m calling you out on misinformation. There is such a thing as facts, and it’s important that we don’t misconstrue them.

    Optional signing of commits in git is not the same thing as mandatory signing of all packages.

    Fact: If I download software with apt in Debian, It’s 100% going to verify the cryptographic authenticity of that package. If the signature doesn’t match, it won’t proceed with the install (unless I choose to override the warning).

    Fact: If I download software with flatpak, it may download maliciously modified software and install it without verifying its authenticity.

    I’m not aware of any way to configure flatpak to force it to verify the signature of releases between download & install (so if the signature is unavailable or invalid, it does not install the software). Again, flatpak is not a safe way to download software, and I don’t think it’s possible to configure it to be safe.

    If I’m the one spreading misinformation, then show me the documentation from flatpak that indicates that all packages are verified by their PGP key after download.

    I think it’s a fairly reasonable expectation that a software repo won’t download malicious software. Flatpak doesn’t do that.




  • itchy_lizard@feddit.ittoOpen Source@lemmy.mlWhy is Trilium so unknown?
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    2 years ago

    Ah, if it’s only available on flatpaks, that’s why few people know about it.

    Flatpak is a very insecure method to download software BTW, you probably should avoid it

    Edit: It’s curious that I’m getting downvoted for stating a fact. It seems a lot of flatpak users don’t understand security. But that’s kinda the point: even the flatpak developers don’t understand the difference between integrity and authenticity

    Flatpak currently does not provide authenticity, and one developer made it clear that he doesn’t understand why that matters in the above ticket that requested signatures of packages back in 2016. It’s been 7 years and still they haven’t fixed this. I don’t think the flatpak team understands or cares about security.