For “voice chats with text”, Mumble. Hopefully Jabber or in the worst case scenario Matrix for the general use case.

Ah yes, the pip to npm pipeline!

The fun thing about regressions: these things affects you if your system is new enough that it has the behaviour reintroduced. Which means you are less likely to be hit if you are using Debian Stable (or even Oldstable) than, say, Sid (unpatched at the time of writing this comment) or Arch btw.

That’s why I don’t have monitor dashboards 😎

At the moment I’m testing Hedgedoc, I took a quickie look at haste-server but from what I read it got enshittified a while ago while I was busy not looking at it lol. Anyway I’ve looked at other alternatives from the link and from selfhosting communities and both OpenGist and ExBin are looking at the things for me to try next for comparison. Thanks for the guidance!

So I’m running a Hedgedoc instance this week to test how things are going. Feels like one of the better choices.

Yeah honestly sometimes Dokuwiki feels like it’s the Konami cheat code for “simple good personal website”. I’m like, why would anyone bother with stuff like, dunno, Wordpress, or Github Pages.

My hoster has been so nice to get me access to the docker on-site, so I’m gonna be testing stuff for a few days. I can’t take a look at logseq until the weekend alas, due to work suddenly being work.

Fun that you mention that, I happen to run my personal site, as well as another wiki for my Pokémon-related fanwork, and an internal kb wiki on my job, all on Dokuwiki. Used to advertise the engine more on Reddit back in the day, too. And sure it’s quite lightweight and operable (I can edit articles remotely, manage remotely and do lots of cool stuff). Its just, from my experience so far, while it’s extremely well-suited for the workflow of a wiki, it’s not so much for the “post-it note” workflow, not even with additions like the Blog plugin.

Perhaps I have to yet tune it further. I guess it’s time to Do Science.

Negotiability, or more precisely offer and acceptance, are achieved by the simple “take it or leave it”.

Maybe in the US, where that kind of this would honestly be expected. Here in more decent countries, Negotiability requires that both parties can exercise offer an acceptance to the contract. I consulted to our local digital ethics group about it and they are in accordance, at least to what pertains to my country.

Any contract is legally binding

Exactly. And a TOS is not a contract.

If you go to law definitions, contracts have a number of requirements to be such, of which to my knowledge a TOS fails two (Negotiability and Certainty).

That’s a lot of info to work with, thanks! Seems there has been a lot of thought and deelopment about this and I just basically didn’t know exactly what to search for.

Explicitly mention Twitter, Facebook, is an advancement. Let’s see if they have some utility or strategy for Discord-style short snippets.

Wow you have given me good things to think about. At first I was thinking I’d want solely text, but now I’m thinking what I’d want would be something closer to hypertext / Rich Text since that’s how the content shows in sites already. So something like a “HTML pastebin” or somesuch would work, I guess?

(HedgeDoc looks interesting, am going to look around for a demo)

See, it’s the entire premise that voice conferencing is needed to have a replacement for “Discord is used for documentation”. It’s not. Almost by definition. If anyone wants videoconferencing there’s Jitsi. That’s the thing I’m aiming to: you won’t ever to get anyone to “replace” Discord if they have to replace all of it. Capitalism doesn’t allow for that. We are trying to do better here. Splitting problems into their component and significative parts makes them much easier to solve.

The closest use case that in the case of these kinds of communities would even need videoconferencing would be something like “Discord is being used for live tech support for modchipping Switches” and for that case there’s also already established alternatives… and it would be wise to not implement for that anyway.

In order to make it into a Discord or Zoom competitor you would need to solve far higher bandwidth things like HD video and low latency audio, and both of thouse are fundamentally very different things for a server to handle as compared to high latency short text messages.

That falls into the same two fallacies as the ones of complainers against Youtube alternatives:

• that in order to offer an alternative to a service you have to replicate all of it
• that you have to provide an alternative to only one service

Like, really, you don’t need to replace all of Discord, only the parts that matter. The alternative to build not to Discord but to “Discord is being used for documentation” already exists, it’s called web forums. Ditto, the alternative to “Discord is being used for communities” also exists, it’s called XMPP or IRC or Matrix depending on who you ask. The alternative to “Discord tracks user data” is simply called “you don’t do it”, etc.

Like, we are literally on Lemmy. Just about the first thing that we Get It from the internet is that centralization is bad, be it Products or Services.

Not to mention Discord is not forced to take communities down. There’s lots of stuff like right wing nutjob communities that are still up no issues. Discord is just sucking Nintendo dick, just like the communities that host solely on Discord are sucking Discord cock.

You can blame both corporations, you don’t need to suck any corpo cock. Nintendo sends the takedowns in the first place, which sure is Nintendon’t, and Discord heeds them despite otherwise profiting from those communities and without allowing any sort of measure.

C++: “You just pointed to all of me.”

But this doesn’t return the Solution. You don’t invoke the lambda.

(Or does C++ have implied returns now? Last I heard there was implied move)

Bartender, I’ll have a shot of that. And please clear my TABLE, I’d rather have a nice VIEW.

I mean, it hopefully wasn’t, it’s a much lighter, simpler and more efficient protocol and seems to stand as a perfect middle ground between IRC and nu-protocols.