I just updated (I use arch btw) and had to reboot WaterFox. The default search engine got changed to 1.org and StartPage no longer shows up as a default option even. Has this happened to anybody else?
Never heard of it. Nice domain. Claims to donate to charity every time you search. Makes 3rd party requests to
cookielaw.org cloudfront.net googletagmanager.com unpkg.comCompared to DDG-noAI: zero 3rd party requests.
Waterfox believe in charity so much, they made some sort of deal with a company that is making money with the idea of helping by making internet searches?
BTW, I use Librewolf.
We and our 1011 partners store and access personal data, like browsing data or unique identifiers, on your device.
Seems like they would many more 3rd party requests than those four.
These are cookies. dropping cookies for 1011 partners does not require accessing their domains at that moment.
A 3rd-party request means that when a client (browser) loads a page, that page wants to load content from other domains. Strictly speaking, DDG does that too (see screenshot below): it loads extra content from one of its _sub_domains.
Still, good catch. Where’d you find that?
And btw it’s of course perfectly possible that DDG does that too; I never meant to claim absolute superiority for it. Just for comparison. It’s my default search engine right now but I should try something better I guess.
The number of partners is in the cookie banner from onetrust when opening the site (maybe location dependent?). I’m aware it doesn’t mean they necessarily are making 3rd party http requests (feels likely though?), but when a site has such a ridiculous amount of partners, it is a huge red flag.
But it’s not surprising, if they donate to charity, for each search request, they have to generate income somehow…
Some ublock origin list probably block all cookie banner.
Do you mean Librewolf? Librefox looks dead.
oops, fixed
Compared to DDG-noAI: zero 3rd party requests.
No need when they’re already selling your search habits from the backend.
Someone please justify to me why I should use Waterfox over Librewolf?
When I was choosing bet them, I heard that librewolf might be too locked down and some websites might not work right without some work. I was just looking for a drop in replacement for Firefox soninchose Waterfox.
I heard that librewolf might be too locked down and some websites might not work right without some work.
Not my experience at all. With one exception: every now and then I have to manually enable WebGL context/canvas.
Quite the opposite; I have it locked down even further with restrictive uBlock Origin settings.
FYI it is possible to unlock quite a lot of functionality on Librewolf if you’re still interested. :) There are two checkboxes that to this in settings.
Does Librewolf have an android version? Last time I looked it didn’t but that was months ago.
I use IronFox for Android and it’s great
Ironfox is recommended for Android
It does not currently.
Found a Reddit post with a bit more information. With the new built in ad-blocker (which I disabled in favour of uBlock Origin) the default search engine was changed to 1.org and the built in ad-blocked configured to not block ads for searches on 1.org.
i think the built-in blocker is based on uBo, no?
It’s based on Brave’s adblocker.
yeah but isn’t that the uBo architecture ported to rust?
From what I’ve heard, the built in blocker is based on Brave browser’s ad blocker. But as it is built in, it is supposed to be faster and more efficient than an extension. I don’t think that part matters very much on desktop, but I might be interested in using it in the mobile version.

Temporary?
Also, I wonder why they removed Startpage.
Startpage asked Waterfox to remove them as the default search because Waterfox users were costing them more than the revenue they were generating for them. There was a revenue sharing agreement between the two companies, but with no profit, the partnership was dissolved.
It’s in the changelog notes: https://www.waterfox.com/releases/6.6.13/
Don’t know.
I’ve had a little extension to make home and new tab be an arbitrary URI of my choosing.Can’t that be changed from the Settings, no need for an addon?
Sometimes.
Usually it’s just the “homepage” or the “Startup page”, not the “New Tab page”.I think Vivaldi is the only one right now, that lets you set an arbitrary New Tab page.
If startpage is not listed as option anymore one can simply go to the site and by right clicking on the address it should be possible to add it as search engine option.
I’m too used to just searching right from the address bar I guess.
I also change the default search immediately with any new browser.
I switch browsers a lot, and there are close to a dozen defaults I change right away.








