Archive: https://archive.is/2025.03.28-144842/https://www.theverge.com/news/637228/madison-square-garden-james-dolan-facial-recognition-fan-ban

A concert on Monday night at New York’s Radio City Music Hall was a special occasion for Frank Miller: his parents’ wedding anniversary. He didn’t end up seeing the show — and before he could even get past security, he was informed that he was in fact banned for life from the venue and all other properties owned by Madison Square Garden (MSG).

After scanning his ticket and promptly being pulled aside by security, Miller was told by staff that he was barred from the MSG properties for an incident at the Garden in 2021. But Miller says he hasn’t been to the venue in nearly a decade.

“They hand me a piece of paper letting me know that I’ve been added to a ban list,” Miller says. “There’s a trespass notice if I ever show up on any MSG property ever again,” which includes venues like Radio City, the Beacon Theatre, the Sphere, and the Chicago Theatre.

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    “His behavior was disrespectful and disruptive and in violation of our code of conduct.”

    Remember, folks: you have to obey the MSG code of conduct even when you’re thousands of miles away from MSG, and years before going there!

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    Man, that’s super creepy, petty and invasive. Billionaires have way too much power in our society today…

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      I will never understand why people with power are this petty.

      They probably think it’s a huge flex, but it makes them look like the most pants-shittingly immature little cry babies.

      Real power is not devoting brain cycles to things that should be beneath you.

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    Huh. So the future we’re living in is Minority report but instead of precog copaganda it’s petty commercial entities excluding you on the basis of old tweets.

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    Also, incredibly creepy - this means they crawled his Facebook page to get his face and then used the creepy surveillance program to pick him up.

    Imagine being the security dude working for this company and going “yea boss, we can make sure the guy saying mean words is banned”

    Shit, I’m probably banned now. Fuck Dolan.

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      In my pass job I was a business intelligence analysist in an insurance company, and my boss came to me and told me to take my computer and go to some conference room. There was one of the managers of legal affairs and she ask me to do look up something on the database, pretty regular job that is usually a ticket but ok, so I did her queries when suddenly they went a direction they don’t normally go and asked me to join the table with the employees database and do a pivot table for employee and count of lines and there was this lady with like 95% of the count, the manager asked me to send her that table and told me that she already knew it was her, but needed the evidence to HR. One week later the lady was fired and I still feel uncomfortable about that. Later I read some essay about abstraction, and how upper you go on the corporate chain, people gradually stop being humans to be just numbers, but for me, that day, my work had a name and a direct consequence that I can’t abstract from.

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      No offense, but if your fediverse account is in any way tied to your identity or other usernames, you already fucked up, privacy-wise. I wanted an account on another instance for the times where mine goes down so I started an application to lem.ee but abandoned it when it required an email address…

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        Well that explains why it’s not in the article: I use Ublock Orgin to block Meta shit (and going by my upvotes, most people in this comment section do as well).

        Why the fuck would they embed an image instead of hosting it directly on the news site? What year is it? 1998? What if the original post goes down? Talk about shit journalism.

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          They addressed it in the comments on the article - basically they are worried about being sued by Meta if they make copies of the post. Walled gardens are like that so I can see why they are cautious - however I’d prefer they at least included a separate link so you could KNOW it was linking out to Instagram.

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            LMAO the comments are getting adblocked as well for me. Probably cause they outsourced their comment section to some sketchy 3rd party too.

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      I would do a charge back with my bank / credit card. He didn’t get the goods or service he bought and it was because of the company so I’d say there is a chance. It also would hurt MSG a tiny bit.

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        I would 100% do this as well. You don’t have to worry about being banned for doing a chargeback.